right in afghanistan and the architect who negotiatinged the deal on the budget and taxes in december. i think he's probably the single closest person now to the president. three, presidents in modern times don't do this. it's only been done twice. gerald ford did it and ended up with bob dole, who got on television and talked about democrat wars, and probably shattered whatever chance ford had, and franklin roosevelt did it in 1944, but frankly could have run on a laundry ticket and gotten re-elected. i don't think it's going to happen. >> willie brown, bop schrum make as compelling case. do you have a case that trumps that? a case for governor cuomo? >> i would not suggest any circumstances that joe biden be pushed out. i think it's joe biden's option. if joe biden decides he wants to be secretary of state and hillary clinton leaves before the re-election process completes itself, then i think it will be necessary for biden and obama together to make a decision. and i think if they do make the decision it will be cuomo. i do not advocate dumping biden. my comment has always been tha